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I am part Jewish and pro co-exist. I am a Post Zionist

I am ok with Palestinian Nationalism

I feel that  Zionism has fulfilled its ideological mission with the formation of the modern Israel in 1948, In my opinion,  Zionist ideology should therefore be considered at an end. 

This has been evident since the Oslo Accords.  Israel should no longer declare itself to be a Jewish democratic state and should instead focus on its democratic aspects. This movement seeks to create social equality in Israel in a way that meshes with my views in this blog

Questions that need an answer:

Is Israel a safe haven for the Jewish nation? Are there any other places in the world which the Jews' conditions are better from a historical point of view? (like North America?)

Is it actually possible to have both a Jewish state and a democracy? Should Israel become a state of all its citizens?

Is the Israeli–Palestinian conflict fully black and white? Did Israel always maximize its efforts to obtain peace with the Palestinians? Should all of the blame for the continuation of the conflict fall on the Palestinian side?

Many of the above questions have also been raised by Zionists. However, I emphasize these points in their conception of Zionist history.

It is good I guess to challenge the existence of a cultural hegemony in Israel. Different groups have undermined the perception of the melting pot, according to which only one Israeli culture existed and all the cultures joining it had to shed their previous identities. 

These unique cultural communities who have been fighting for their place in Israel include Mizrahi Jews, USSR immigrants, Israeli Arabs etc.

I much prefer the old school humanist universal Zionism, Non Zionism, Labour Zionism (non Zionist) and Israeli Nationalism to modern Zionism as I feel those types of nationalisms are better than modern Zionism. Modern Zionism is too Nationalistic for me.

I am between lenient of to being an apologist of a Liberalism 2.0 variant of Kahanism that is fused with a fusion of apolitical half hearted philosemetism, United for Israel Zionism and a militantly moderate left fusion of far center Israeli Statism and Left Wing Israeli Nationalism 

I have no major issues that I know of with Zionism per say, and I am glad that the US is pro Israel but the US embracing Zionism (or at least as much as they have) is not ideal in my mind. This is because I am a non interventionist. 

We should support Israel like any of our allies like the UK, Australia, Argentina, but not more than we support those allies and certainly not put Israel above the US. 

There is no reason that American politicians should have an Israeli flag in his office. I feel a Night’s Watchmen alliance between the US and Israel would be more ideal

 That causes a lot of anti American hostility in the Middle East and takes resources away from helping American citizens in the US.The US should focus on the US. Israel rightfully already has the help of Americans United For Israel , they don’t need the US Government’s Israel saviorism 

I have no issues with Donald Trump being a friend to Israel and being as Zionist as he is. He is the first Neocon President to actually want to try to find a solution to the Israel Palestinian conflict where the Palestinians where the Palestinians are seen as humans and not as terrorists as previous Republican Neocon Presidents saw them

This article by Crimethinc gives good background on the connection between Anarchism and Israel. 

As a partly Jewish, pro co-exist, Left Libertarian, I view Na.zism as anathema to me and it is very antithetical to my values and my practices

I support the Jewish Voice for Labour and I between tolerate and accept their past assessments on the Labour Party under Jeremy Corbyn. This is why I kept supporting the Labour Party despite the scandal under Jeremy Corbyn

Diaspora zionism when done right is a good thing (see the UK’s Jewish community who I am a fan of for proof) but when done too much (never happened before that I know of, so hypothetical but still..) it could be an issue, albeit small one, and any mainstream political scientist would echo this point

It is a challenge for politicians to find compassionate to empathetic common ground with the Jews on Diaspora zionism without those politicians stepping over the line in either direction.  We need more bridges and less barriers between our politicians snd the Jewish community to make both sides happy

If Palestinians feel they are being slighted by Israel they should be encouraged to apply for political asylum/refugee status in the US. We'll happily and somewhat more than conditionally take them

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However, I support the IDF as much as Anti Zionist IDFer supports them 

I support the old school Mossad (in particular the early mid 1960s Mossad who fought against the Egypt/Germany coalition and against other Arab countries). 

I especially like how the Mossad went to places like South America, then covertly kidnapped, captured and brought to Israel for justice those former NDSAP fascists in the 1960s etc

I support the more moderate factions of the Herut Party (Israel)

I view the Palestinian Liberation Army and moderate parts of Hamas and Hezbollah as more tolerable than most Americans do. 

I don't view Hamas or Hezbollah as militants (technically) or terrorists per say 

Hamas and Hezbollah seem to at least try to care for their people (but some bad apples in their groups seem to care more about their rockets since some of those bad apple Palestinians use their citizens as shields for their rockets ,while Israel uses rockets as shields for their citizens), 

It's just they go too far, and sometimes do commit brutal, sickening terrorism that gets downplayed or too downplayed by some pro Palestinians (but they are not terrorists per say) that makes it impossible for me to support them because doing so would mean I support innocent people dying, and since I am a humane person who cringes at death, I can't support Hamas and Hezbollah due to their brutal violence

So I intuively pity Hamas and Hezbollah. I believe Hamas and Hezollah aren't as bad as the MSM makes them out to be. Both groups are basically between 90s lovable rogues and Villain Protagonists with gray and blue morality 

Hamas needs to stop being so violent and militant to show the rest of the world this and to garner sympathy in their cause.

I admire Hezbollah for their unique military and their fighting spirit. They are defending Lebanon. According to the Torah, God never gave Lebanon to the Jews or Israel. Hezbollah has done much senseless criminal acts and that is condemnable.

I would have opposed H. Res. 951 (if I was following politics back then) like Ron Paul opposed it.  I also echo everything that Paul said in his statement in this article  . I retroactively oppose H.Res 951 because I am Libertarian and an non interventionist

Jewish people have wandered for thousands of years without nation or power ,until the creation of Israel (and even after it, though much less so than before) and are thus a refutation of Zionist and Nationalist idealogy (or even the concept of a country to being with) since their cohesion through their wanderings eliminate the whole nation-power concept from politics. 

They should be admired for keeping their identity and culture together through those thousands of years of wanderings. 

Jewish dispora should be a model for a post nation world where nations are fluid and nomadic, more like the Jewish dispora Jews (mobile and fluid) and less like Israel Jews (Zionist/Nationalist) and static nation residents (ie US, Canada, Australia, China, UK, etc)

I support Israel's occupation of the West Bank and the capitol of Israel being moved to Jerusalem if for no other reason than out of spite because of the BDS’s SJW boycott and cancel culture methods and for the BDS hitting too close to home with their methods. 

I could care less if Amos Oz and other Leftist Anti Zionist people call Israeli occupiers in the West Bank, ‘Neofascists’, I still support Israeli occupiers in the West Bank despite that comparison (albeit for no other reason than out of soite)

I admire Israel for being so unique and for the passion and unity that Israelis have for their country and

I like how the state of Israel is the homeland for Jews and how they reformed their country after 2000 years and being an outlier in the Middle East, for better or for worse, though the Neturei Karta Jews say that the true Israel won’t be created until Jesus comes back to Earth and some Christians say that the Christians replaced the Jews as God’s people i.e book of Hebrews 

I am glad Israel was created to give a safe haven to Jewish people after two thousand years of diaspora and senseless abuse in other countries

Israel is a special place amongst the nations of the world and is considered a democratic civilized first world country and is afforded special privileges, trade offers and partnerships that are not available to any other serial violator of human rights.

At the same time, it isn’t right that Israel sets up shop so to speak in Palestinian territory by occupying it since that is settler colonialism . I feel that Palestine is being colonized by the Israelis. Israel is wrong to colonize Palestine

If Israel was truly an egalitarian and democratic state, then it wouldn’t matter what the demographic make up of Israel is. A citizen is a citizen. 

But Israel isn’t a democracy, it is a colonized settler state and ethnocracy that is built around privileging Jewish Israelis over everyone else . This pushes Israel to instate racist laws which breed discrimination against Palestinians, even Palestinians that it begrudgingly calls citizens of Israel. 

This logic animates much of Israel’s demographic obsessions, giving credence to the dehumanizing view that Palestinian babies are demographic ‘threats’, because they ‘endanger’ an absolute Jewish majority.

However, returning refugees would effectively end the Israeli regime which has historically organized itself through. colonial and discriminatory Zionist policies of Israeli chauvinism

It is intellectually dishonest to claim that dismantling this problematic undemocratic system is tantamount for calling for the genocide of Israelis, as it is often claimed.   

When the Apartheid regime in South Africa was defeated, this didn’t mean the physical destruction or genocide of South Africa as a state or of the Afrikaner despite critics of the ANC constantly falsely accused them of calling for the genocide of the white population, similar to how Israelis do in our time against Palestinians (Israel is not a white supremacist or Apartheid state I just used this to make a point)

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Pro Israel

I realize that Israel treats Palestinians better than other Middle East country treats it minorities 

Pro Palestine  

I do have an intuitive understanding of the legit Palestinian grievances that they have with Israel as noted throughout this blog.  

I retroactively support the Jews ban (ch-r-m)/actions toward the pre Israeli inhabitants of Canaan (Hittite and the Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and the Jebusites) in the Book of Joshua. I retroactively support the way that the Jews conquered Canaan in the book of Joshua and took it over. This shows why I feel this way

I am part Jewish and I am glad that the USSR under especially under Joseph Stalin was fair (for the time) to Jewish citizens and helped Israel in the 1940s. Under Stalin antisemitism carried penalties up to the death penalty

Embassy

I believe that the US embassy should move to either the Ancient biblical city of Bethel instead of being in Jerusalem.or Shiloh instead (but via a Donald Trump type 'let's make a deal' so Palestinians get something for giving up Shiloh to the Jews). But I can live with the embassy being in Jerusalem now

conflict and groups

I see leftist hostility toward Israel, Israelites, Zionism and similar targets as a silver lining (even though I abhor them for their hatred toward us), in that it proves they are hypocrites and exposes their negativeness to people who don't know they are so wound up and hostile. 

The British Israelites groups of the late 19th century and early 20th century were eccentric but probably no more racist or anti semitic than the mainstream of Western culture at that time (but obviously wrong for having those bigoted attitudes). 

However, they were wrong about the Jews.  I hope that modern BDS and progressives don't make the British Israelites mistake of allowing legit criticism of Zionism to warp into bigoted and ignorant viewpoints that backfires

I support Anti BDS laws since I don’t like the SJW, cancel culture or boycott methods of the BDS movement and because Anti BDS laws are opposed by Liberal 2.0ers

I do wish Pro Israel people can help address the concerns of BDS people and their allies but in a Pro Israel way (ie in a way that benefits Israel and the Israelites and also makes the BDS people and their allies along with the Palestinians feel their concerns were alleviated at the same time while pushing the Liberalism 2.0 faction of the BDS movement to be non Liberal 2.0)

The BDS is a mixed bag. They use SJW , boycott , demonizing and cancel culture methods which I abhor and loathe. 

They go too far at times in other areas and aren’t diplomatic (I am pro diplomacy). 

But the BDS are trying to humanize Palestinians since Israel has wrongly dehumanized the Palestinians on occasion while treating them like terrorists which is Islamaphobic. 

Palestinians are not terrorists ,they are generally no worse than Israel and they should get more support in the US. When both political parties in the US are so Pro Israel and won’t even show any sympathy for the Palestinians you know it is a serious issue

The BDS fighting against what they see as IDF ‘terrorism’ (i.e self defense) against Palestinians is positive too since the IDF has killed innocent Palestinians and even some Israelis for too long. 

I also like how BDS is trying to create a paradigm shift in US politics trying to push the US away from being blatantly Zionist (though BDS needs to refrain from going too far since they could be falsely smeared as antisemitic or become fully Liberal 2.0 which they most certainly are not)

If there was a problem solvers faction of the BDS I would consider supporting it. 

The BDS map should be used to build coalitions with Jewish buisness owners to find a third way/third camp solutions to the Israel settlement issues that doesn’t use SJW , boycott, demonizing and cancel culture tactics to do so, otherwise the map should be destroyed  . 

The Jewish business owners who don’t comply should be left alone peacefully 

BDS is wrong and twisted for smearing Israel as an ‘apartheid state’. Israel is far from perfect and has committed human rights violations but they are not an ‘ apartheid state’. I would never support Israel if I thought they were an apartheid state

Rashida Tlaib should not have given in to extreme liberal anti Israel zealots and she should have went to Israel/Palestine as she planned. 

Conflict

Since 2003 I have been pro co exist on the Israel-Palestinian conflict . Its just the Israel-Palestine conflict is so deep, complicated, violent and fluid, it's hard to get a handle on that issue (war/conflict is hell)

It is like a tug of war and it is hard to sort out which side is the aggressor and which side is acting in self defense

I believe that Benjamin Netanayahu was too tough on Palestine and the Palestinians at times. But I like the economic Post Zionism of Netanayahu

The Israelis are hero antagonists and I am not bummed that Israel exists (I am a Post Zionist)

If Palestinians feel they are being slighted by Israel they should be encouraged to apply for political asylum/refugee status in the US. We'll happily and somewhat more than conditionally take them

Critique of Israel

We shouldn't be so hard on Israel since according to the Torah God pushes his nautral will by doing things that are at times seemingly against all countries on Earth, including Israel (but for good reasons not antisemetic reasons, and not to punish per say, just a 'karma thing due to how you lived' type of thing and done subtly a la Butterfly Effect). So let God be the one to do those things to all countries he sees fit to do them to (which furthers his will). 

But when I see Israel allow themselves to be provocative provoked by the Palestinians (not that the Palestinians are are bad, both sides equally got a legit grievance its just Israel's grievance is more faux legit than the Palestians' grievance which is actually as legit ) to combat the Palestinians aggression, I mentally go off script

I get upset with Israel when I see senseless killings of innocent Palestinians by Israelis. I saw one photo in 2003 of a Lebanese baby with his head blown off by IDF soldiers.  Between those and similar attacks by the IDF, it makes me feel the IDF are like ISIS in a way

Critique of Palestine

Reading things like this, this and this is partly why I am pro co exist and not pro Palestine

It is wrong that the Palestinians are statist  (I am anti statist) . 

Israel has committed countless harsh human rights violations against the Palestinians for decades using the cover of being ‘America of the Middle East’ . This allowed Israel to avoid blowback and scrutiny for their abuse that other Middle Eastern countries could never be afforded

 If Israel is to be the ‘America of the Middle East’ it should live up  to that label and handle the Palestinian situation more humanely and compassionately. It is tit for tat conflict where the lines between aggressor and defender is blurred and involves gray. It is like a chicken or the egg type of conflict 

Since some fringe ultranationalist Israel supporters and Israelis keep smearing and dehumanizing Palestinians as ‘terrorists’ I have no pity when their actions toward the Palestinians are called genocidal (or I believe Israel’s overzealous actions toward the Palestinians can leave their actions towards the Palestinians could leave those actions being called a genocide) even though I know that both sides of this issue are equally brutal at times just in different ways. 

These atrocities have caused pain and suffering on both sides. Israel should be held to a higher standard since they know better and are God’s people. 

Another big issue for me with Israel is their chauvinism.  

Israel should have been dealing with migrants the way that the Christian Romans dealt with the Israelis during the bible at worst, not the way above. I can see how some people say that Israeli democracy is eroding. 

Free elections and a parliament don't mean a country is free (look at Russia for proof). Israel has done questionable things including wars recently that leaves themselves open to criticism 

I realize because war is hell that at least somewhat excuses some of their more brutal actions against the Palestinians that I mention on this page  (which is also why I am able to toxicly sympathize, albeit half heartingly with the Palestinians a temporary oscillations every now and then)

I'll always be pro co-exist even if Israel goes harder on the Palestinians. 

At worst , while I am still being pro co-exist, I would unconciously be hoping that G-d corrects Israel for their negative actions against the Palestinians literally the same exact methods he used to correct the Jews while they were roaming in the wilderness for 40 years in Exodus but without violence.  Israel needs to show they are the bigger person. 

The Know Nothing Party (US) wasn’t as harsh in the Jews as others, but they still were xenophobic bordering on ignorantly anti semetic toward them and thus the Know Nothing Party (US) were far from pro Jewish

The Know Nothing Party (US) should have ditched xenophobia and instead have had a high sense of patriotic and cultural responsibility for the welfare of Jewish people to the point that the Know Nothing Party US fought for the Jewish people's cause in a aloof ally /saviorism sort of way